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Posted: 14:59 - 25 May 2022 Post subject: Muc-Off, are they a reputable company? Perhaps not!! |
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This came as a bit of a shock to me. The well-known bike cleaning company "Muc-Off" (whose products I enjoy) last year uploaded a viral video to youtube where they "compared" their own bike cleaning product (that costs £5 - £10) to a similar product sold by the retailer Poundland (that costs about £1).
In the video, they poured both products onto different pieces of aluminium, and claimed that their own product did no harm but that after a few minutes the Poundland product was fizzing and corroding, and after 24 hours had destroyed the aluminium! I saw this video and was persuaded to use MucOff products as a result.
I now see that someone has replicated the test and discovered that Muc-Off's comparison appears to be untrue. In the replication video, the poundland product did NOT turn aluminium black after 24 hours nor was any difference visible after 24 hours. Could Muc-Off have done something to the poundland product to make it more corrosive before doing the test?
Muc-Off have now blocked access to their comparison video. Normally since the advert has been removed I would not get too excited, but in this case, it seems that some active naughtiness may have occured and it's made me rethink whether this is a product I want to be buying.
Here is a link to the advert (this is a mirror since the original has been taken down...I assume because they realised they were busted!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOScuyn1iQM
Here is a link to the video where the test was replicated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WyTPyL_tBc
Any thoughts? Am I overreacting? Or is this is something they shouldn't be getting away with? ____________________ Current: Yamaha Diversion XJ900
Previous: Yamaha Diversion 600cc, Piaggio Zip 50cc, Honda CG125-W, Siamoto Caddy 50cc moped
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Posted: 15:04 - 25 May 2022 Post subject: Re: Muc-Off, are they a reputable company? Perhaps not!! |
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jimster wrote: | This came as a bit of a shock to me. The well-known bike cleaning company "Muc-Off" (whose products I enjoy) last year uploaded a viral video to youtube where they "compared" their own bike cleaning product (that costs £5 - £10) to a similar product sold by the retailer Poundland (that costs about £1).
In the video, they poured both products onto different pieces of aluminium, and claimed that their own product did no harm but that after a few minutes the Poundland product was fizzing and corroding, and after 24 hours had destroyed the aluminium! I saw this video and was persuaded to use MucOff products as a result.
I now see that someone has replicated the test and discovered that Muc-Off's comparison appears to be untrue. In the replication video, the poundland product did NOT turn aluminium black after 24 hours nor was any difference visible after 24 hours. Could Muc-Off have done something to the poundland product to make it more corrosive before doing the test?
Muc-Off have now blocked access to their comparison video. Normally since the advert has been removed I would not get too excited, but in this case, it seems that some active naughtiness may have occured and it's made me rethink whether this is a product I want to be buying.
Here is a link to the video where the test was replicated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WyTPyL_tBc
Als here is a link to the advert itself (now removed...I assume since they realised they had been busted...!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKUM7gYHajE
Any thoughts? Am I overreacting? Or is this is something they shouldn't be getting away with? |
Without seeing it, I cannot tell what happened. They could have used different materials in whatever test block they were using: aluminium in one and zinc coated steel in the other. Then use a corrosive/ oxidising solution to dissolve off the zinc and leave a dark/ black steel face.
EDIT: Could simply have used zinc coated steel in both cases and simply made the competitor solution acidic and that's the difference. ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
PAST: 2009 Kawasaki ER-6F. 2021 Zontes ZT-125U.
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Posted: 15:24 - 25 May 2022 Post subject: |
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I found a mirror of the video here and I think it's horseshit and set-up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOScuyn1iQM
I think these are zinc coated tapered steel pieces and the zinc is effervescing off the surface of the underlying steel as they have likely made the solution slightly oxidising which is easy enough to do by dropping in a few millilitres of thin bleach into the bottle before pouring it into the beaker.
It's not corroding the aluminium as aluminium oxide is white and looks like this:
https://94271.smushcdn.com/443180/wp-content/uploads/Corroded-alumninum-2.jpg?lossy=1&strip=1&webp=1 ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
PAST: 2009 Kawasaki ER-6F. 2021 Zontes ZT-125U.
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I would never use any Muc-Off product after using one of there general bike wash (pink stuff) products years ago on a early 90`s Kawasaki which caused the factory black frame paint to discolor and go milky.
Motul products on the other hand have been excellent. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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That’s awful. If the Poundland product was that bad they’d have been bombarded with compensation claims. Now I know that Muc-Off are dirty they’ve lost me as a customer. |
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It used to be said that washing up liquid had salt in it, but that doesn’t seem to be true, and I guess it would be rinsed off anyway. I think I’ll try it.
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Being a tightwad, I also started to use the Aldi WUL as recommended by Bennetts after watching that video. However after a few months I noticed more corrosion on steel parts. Not saying it was the WUL but I stopped using it anyway. Salt is a cheap thickening agent and it is definitely used in some soap products like hand washes. Taste it if you don't believe me. |
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The salt content isn't a problem unless you go leaving it on your bike rather than rinsing it off as per tradition.
It's used in cleaning products because it's good at cleaning things rather than anything to do with it being a thickening agent.
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