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Mister James |
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Mister James I want to believe!
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Posted: 10:46 - 13 May 2006 Post subject: Tories to axe Human Rights Act (at last!) |
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Quote: | I'm ready to rip up Human Rights Act, declares Cameron
By Graeme Wilson, Political Correspondent
(Filed: 13/05/2006)
David Cameron revealed yesterday that he is ready to tear up the Human Rights Act amid growing public concern that it is being exploited by foreign criminals.
If he wins the next general election, the Conservative leader will order a review of the law introduced by Labour eight years ago and rewrite the legislation if necessary.
However, if it becomes clear that it was not possible to improve the Act through amendments, Mr Cameron is prepared to abolish it.
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Every, and I mean every single detainee at my place uses the HR legislation as a key part of their case against Immigration. Usually it applies because they would have their rights infringed due to something disgraceful they have done, like raped children, murdered 5 people, etc. It equally applies to things like them claiming to have medical conditions that wouldn't be treated as well in a Gambian hospital as they would in Harley Street!
You can bet your bottom dollar that a large proportion of the un-deported foreign criminals mentioned in the news recently remain in Blighty because of their cunning use of this defence - it's high time it was removed. Looks like the Tories have a chance of getting in next time round now, excellent! ____________________ >Soultrader Mister James, I bet you are a copper
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Itchy Super Spammer
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Posted: 13:51 - 13 May 2006 Post subject: |
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no it shouldn't be canned but modified akin to the outlaw system:
with certain guarentees for all criminal or not:
no cruel and unusual treatment (which should be normal anyway since we have loads of unsafe convictions if you kill beat or maim people later who are found to be innocent say sally Clarke or Angela Cannings how can you compensate them)
right to a fair trial
innocent before proven guilty.
Non outlaws have more rights than outlaws and convicted criminals and hence the system favours them instead , you know the rights to life
free association
family
etc
Removing it completely at a stroke removes the rights of the law abiding too , and since NL are dark corrupt and meglomanical you can't trust them to remove all these rights from law abiding people esp since it is virtually guarenteed they will slip in a pay rise and some exploitative powers akin to a stazi state. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Posted: 13:56 - 13 May 2006 Post subject: |
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anyway allthe tories need to do to get in is wait,
to guarentee it,
to scrap the pay as you drive system and say NL will introduce it , which 96% of drivers don't likr (thats 27 million votes at a stroke).
For the environmentalists
Reduce SVO and bio diesel taxes to what they were last year which currently makes biodiesel and SVO as expensive as normal diesel and petrol.
Can nuclear power in favour of clean coal (which increases each KWh by 2p which separates all the C02 from the exhaust of coal plants and pumps them into oil spaces under the sea) allowing 100% capital allowance on this , this will pay for itself. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Posted: 16:09 - 13 May 2006 Post subject: |
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Should be canned.
Although knowing the government we'll get the UK equivalent of the US patriot act 1 & 2 to replace it. ____________________ 02 Firestorm. |
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plugger147 World Chat Champion
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Posted: 21:31 - 13 May 2006 Post subject: |
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I'm all in favour of it, lets hope they can do the same with political correctness next. ____________________ Tristan the wrote: just whipped off my trousers to find a big bruise on my arse, caused by matt rear ending me... |
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Posted: 23:01 - 13 May 2006 Post subject: |
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going back to the magna carta would be good but most of that has been repealed and replaced ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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there was a quote inthe papers a while ago saying that the queen and her ilk cost us all the price of a loaf of bread , since a loaf of bread is floating round the 80P mark , thats the figure I use. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Posted: 01:25 - 15 May 2006 Post subject: |
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the day people commit proper sicko acts is the day they loose their human rights IMO
sooner the better. |
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listen to what Blair is saying he says he wants powers to overturn court decisions , such that the enshrined sort of law where whence found not guilty in a trial by a jury of peers , he wants such a power to turn this into a guilty verdict.
this is unsafe , esp with the bad charactor rules and retrials , they should have the Scottish unproven verdict which doens't mean you are innocent it just means the case the CPS brings is too weak and its more a case of we blody well know you did it. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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innominate wrote: | Only real solution, is to drag everyone else up to our standards of living.
Then nobody would be arsed coming here & the arguments from both sides) would be invalid anyway.
I trust and respect Cameron for more than Blair, & that coming from someone who ideologically hates the Tories. |
No theres two theories on this , a race to the top or a race to the bottom , if you are at the top people want to be you or live with you , if you are at the bottom people want to leave you, Blair has been going the race to the bottom ,economic policies during the first 5 years of NL were ones to contract the economy hence he just got lucky.
if you were savvy enough to watch the news closely take home pay went down last year , taxes going up and the economy is falling apart with supressed inflation (read Chinese imports) , and what not. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 18 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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